Meeting between FH and all purchasers on 30th June 2012 at 10.00a.m.

To all my beloved purchasers:-

Please be informed that there will be a meeting with FH and all purchasers on 30th June 2012 at 10.00a.m. to be held at Auditorium Majlis Perbandaran Ampang Jaya (“MPAJ”) Menara MPAJ, Jalan Pandan Utama 55100 Kuala Lumpur.

The letter of notice regarding the meeting will be send out to all purchasers by FH soon. In this regard, the meeting has been scheduled to brief the purchasers on the status of the Project as well as to address any queries from all purchasers.

See you there!

81 Responses so far »

  1. 1

    Rahim Sham said,

    Here some list of questions … Maybe few cannot make it to this important event, saya cadangkan to all buyers to post questions here..
    Based on the past communication, here are some of questions to FH. FH pls provide factual explanation to the following;
    1. Actual progress vs plan, based on certified engineer.
    2. Actual cost vs plan.
    3. Details project cost. Pls provide main key components ; crane cost, material cost, workers, Kemuja overhead, FH overhead.
    4. Manpower loading during the project. If the manpower loading is low, why is it so? What effort has been done.
    5. What actually the cause of project delay?
    6. How to complete the project and the remaining cost, pls provide details
    7. How much money was actually collected from the buyer.
    8. how many support the project but don’t pay, based on evident.
    9. How many support the project but not able to get financial assistance.
    10. how many “don’t care about project”. based on various communication.
    11. Cost of the tower crane. what is the normal crane utilization factor in construction.
    12. What are FH role in the project.
    13. How many project progress meetings held with Kamuja.
    14. How or on what basis, the payment was made to Kamuja or other related parties.
    15. What is specific plan to complete the project until the handover to buyers
    16. What is Kamuja contract obligation in completing the project, I.e until to what stage.
    17. How we can get additional money to complete the project. Pls elaborate on CAGARAN issue raised.
    18. How strong is the case wrt termination on SPA.
    19. Election is around the corner, how can we influence polical party.
    20. What is current status of the project.

    • 2

      Amirhamzah (CEO KCSB) said,

      Amirhamzah (CEO KCSB) said,

      June 26, 2012 @ 4:46 pm

      Greeting to all purchaser,
      My name is Amirhamzah representing Kamuja Corporation Sdn. Bhd. (KCSB)the contractor who like yourself is now one of the project casualty. All this while we have remained silent over our involvement int= this project but it the interest of the purchasers let us be transparent of what transpired and what was our role.
      Best explain our role first:
      1) KCSB is appointed only as the contractor for the project under PAM FORM of Contract.
      2) in the contract payment is based on a monthly interim payment based on the architect certificate.
      3) Upon the architect cert the Client(Mudi/FH) will have to honour the payment within 30 days of the Architect Cert.
      4)KCSB acknowledged that the first six(6) months from the project start the cashflow was tight due to money coming in for the top sum.
      5) The understanding between KCSB and FH was for the progress to comensurate with the cashflow.
      6) Never there was any agreement that KCSB have to fund the project even though KCSB have not been paid. Once the Letter of Award was issued it is the onous of FH to ensure that the funds were made available to KCSB.
      7) Any default in payment is contractual default.
      Now what transpired………
      1)In May KCSB highlighted that works cannot be slowed down anymore as completion period was nearing
      2) FH during site meeting confirmed that there was no problem with the fund and instructed KCSB to proceed with full force
      3) Works for August 2011 was certified and FH had problem releasing the money.
      3) KCSB arranged with a Sabahan funder to fund 10 million with KCSB willing to absorbed the 1 million cost of financing. FH refused to give commitment to make payment to funder. Scheme aborted.
      4)Works for October 2011 was certified and was informed by FH that they have no idea how to pay. So was works for November 2011. At this point the amount owing to KCSB was 1.50m.
      ANY REASONABLE CONTRACTOR WOULD NOT PROCEED IF NO SECURITY OF PAYMENT.
      5) In January KCSB arrange another funder and hed negotiated w FH on the terms. FH again would not want to commit. Agreed in FH office was to cool of the project until a solution on the cash flow is found.
      6) In April bring in another funder from Penang. Funder requested prove FH could sell the units. At this point only we knew FH hv not renewed the developer’s liecense hence counld not sell. Deal again aborted
      7)KCSB arranged for FH to meet KPKT in particular Mr. Jana to resolve the problem.
      8) KCSB again arranged funds from Chaudhary Group of Nepal and Paradise Group of Malaysia for funding and the party committed to fund the project. Details of which have already been sent to FH incl KPKT.
      FH again remained silent

      Please note all this while we, KCSB have been trying to resolve the financial issue and not FH. It is not our duty as a contractor to finance the project to completion. We work and we should get paid as with the purchase you pay youy get your house. Are we to be blamed for slowing down when it was mutually agreed the progress is based on the funds available. Are we to continue when we dont know whether we will be paid or not.
      Yes FH contended the termination was lawful but equity must come with clean hands.We have explaid this to one of the purchaser who came to our office seeking clarification and was informed of this forum.
      Rest assured we will seek justice and if that happens the actual party that suffer will definitely be the purchaser. Who will bear all the legal expenses and claim as correctly pointed out? FH? All that ………. you know the answer.
      We well come if any of the purchaser or the committee wanting to cite the legal documents prepared by our lawyers in defence and suit but could not allow any hard copies as the matter will be material case.
      Amirhamzah Abdul Majid
      012 365

  2. 3

    Jiwa Kacau said,

    Apasal tak buat meeting end of this year or early next year?..Lepas meeting dengan purchaser END of June..FH akan coordinate meeting dengan Agensi Kerajaan pulak..END of August..habis meeting dengan Gov. Agency..buat pulak meeting dengan Perdana Menteri..di jadualkan END of October..sambung pembinaan tak dibuatnya jugak..pthuii…

    Rumah bila mau siap nih hoiii..telepon FH (Suresh) kata sebelum June nak start sambung construction..nih hampeh la jugak…banyak janji..banyak tipu..tu saja kepandaian FH ni..

    Dah lebih sepuluh tahun rumah tak siap2 jugak..boleh jadi sampai END of life..meeting..meeting & meeting..postpone..postpone & postpone…

    Top up yg FH mintak dulu dah habih ka?..Mau tambah lagi ye?..berapa puluh ribu lagi pulak u mau?..u mau kaki ka FH?..

  3. 4

    Jiwa Kacau said,

    Pembetulan..yg cakap nak sambung construction sebelum June ialah Kumar FH..bukan Suresh..sorry Suresh..

    • 5

      Vincent Leong said,

      Jiwa Kacau,

      Terpulang kepada saudara untuk join atau tidak, meeting tetap akan berjalan dan meeting minute juga akan kita update di sini.

      Vincent

  4. 6

    mss e said,

    Hi all.
    We should be thank to Elsie n the rest of the team on handling our issue here n the rest of buyer who throw some ideas, comments, anger n etc .acctually all this are very usefull.
    We are again FAILED base on the previous arrangment tht majority all of us are agreed ( to continue the project n top up rm 30K)
    for this round , I will suggest tht we call the press i.e tv 3 or astro to be in the meeting too.and the ADUN kawasan posibble . Lets this issue to be publish so tht lets every one know tht we been suffered all the while ( kita jdi mangsa.)
    we can ask around if any precedure to call the press. Moreover. This is just a suggestion . Thanks

  5. 7

    Sufferer said,

    Hi,

    We the owner for this condo have suffered a lot.

    1) Suffer 1.0 – because Talam stopped work, we waited for 10 years still cannot get our house.

    2) Suffer 2.0 – FH want top up of 30K. For this 30K is not easy monies. Some might come from hard earn savings for many years, lend from friends and relatives, seek hi & lo from many banks then became extra burden, double our normal expenses, some became broke and etc.

    3) FH, we have suffered, we do not to have suffer 3.0. We no money for another top up.

    Thanks

  6. 8

    elvis said,

    apa kata kita lantik lawyer untuk bertindak bagi pihak kita?…………………….together we fight….

  7. 9

    Frustrated said,

    the more FH & KEMUJA delayed, the MORESSS purchasers loss!I was disspointed with all this kind of problems!Hopefully, involvement of press & politicians will help to solve our problem.

  8. 10

    Jue said,

    asyik meeting ja, kerja nya tak siap jugak!tolong la meeting yang ada input & outcome sikit. Setakat meeting, bagi janji manis hentikan lah.Jangan bagi harapan kpd kami, kalau dah memang tak mampu!1 hari nanti, FH & KEMUJA AKAN DAPAT BALASAN. MENGANIAYA ORANG!

  9. 11

    Vincent Leong said,

    Sufferer,

    As shared earlier, there will be no additional top-up to complete our project.

    Jue,

    The meeting on 30JUN2012 will details on the action plan for the project completion therefore please avai yourself to attend to seek clarification for your queries personnally.

    Vincent

  10. 12

    Jue said,

    why dont terminate je contractor kura-kura tu?

  11. 13

    mss e said,

    Now is june 2012. ····is the project start. ? Meeting is another issue .dont prolong this matter. .works need to start!!!!!!! To me FH got the name . Tak malu ker U run this project mcm company kacang putih? Dgr name mmg cukup gah . Tak kan u untung atas angin jer. till now i cant see wat are FH doing . If FH expert .Y Y YY its failed again?

  12. 14

    mss e said,

    FH . COME ON LAH . IF LIKE THIS . SHAME ON YOU FH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!u pun patut kena f—k lah .

  13. 15

    Vincent said,

    Mss E,

    Avai yourself to join the meeting on 30JUN2012 to ask and clear Allah the doubt, pointless to voice out here.

    Vincent

  14. 16

    Vincent said,

    Typo error should read as all instead of allah

  15. 17

    FFK said,

    REMINDER!!!!

    FH/KAMUJA continue to delay the project so more units to be terminate???

    Correct me if i am wrong, FH/KAMUJA can sell more than 76units, pocket the money and left the terminated units empty handed……

    another scam??? pls think about this……..76units x RM280K = more than RM21mil masuk pocket SIAPA???

    • 18

      Vincent Leong said,

      FFK,

      Be real, are you going to give MYR 21M to FH for incomplete units? No way the terminated can be sell or cash out when it’s still incomplete.

      Show up yourself during the meeting and seek the clarification yourself.

      Vincent

    • 19

      naj said,

      poket kamuja………………itu dah biasa dia org buat…………..angkat duit org………….untuk hidup anak beranak…………..

  16. 20

    janji palsu said,

    fh tak tepati janji……….boleh blah lah

  17. 21

    Rahim Sham said,

    Today SUN mentioned Selangor Govt has got 202.3 ha of land, TALAM corporation ‘frozen’ asset. This hundred millions value..

    • 22

      mss e said,

      Vincent.
      Thnks for ur reply. Is tht any press involve in the meeting. ? Or politician?

      • 23

        Vincent said,

        Hi Mss E,

        The meeting will be between FH and purchasers only. While politician may seem to be able to add pressure, best is not to involve them at this stage to avoid futher complication to the project completion plan.

        Vincent

  18. 24

    Siti said,

    Hi all… I’m one of the purchaser that failed to pay the top up sum but it is not because I dun want to pay it, but I can’t pay the 30k lum sum due to my other commitment. For the info, I’m a single mother. I did propose to FH for other alternatives since January 2012 and everytime i called Miss Ng Yi Wen, the answer is still waiting. No clear results. I just want to know is there any ‘black and white’ saying those who didn’t pay for the top up sum, the unit will be terminated?

    In my case, i want to pay at least 60% from the top up sum.. but FH make it pending!

    • 25

      Vincent Leong said,

      Hi Siti,

      Sympathy with your challenge, make yourself avai to attend the meeting on 30JUN12 to highlight to FH face to face and conclude the arrangement. Ideally beside phone call, you should follow by either letter or e-mail so that it’s properly documented.

      Vincent

  19. 26

    Rahim Sham said,

    Today is 15 June.. Yet to see tower crane in the sky.. this means project project Zero.. Yet to receive notice of meeting. I guess the answer is On The Way..

  20. 27

    Hi All. Im not a purchaser but i do sympathise with the problem affecting your life. As for all of you guys, its a new experience dealing with FH. I know this game well. Please take note here, do not CALL FH but email them. Keep all the records. Afterall, FH was appointed by Court as liquidators.Pls CC to JPN , attn: En Jana Santhiran( Pengarah Pemulihan Perumahan Terbengkalai) Keep him in the loop. He has been savour for many victims and i was one of the victim in a diff project years back.He has done a excellent job and i do hear his name flying high till today. He has revived many abandoned projects and i hope the same for this project too.God bless you all !!!

  21. 28

    Broken Heart said,

    Dear Pn Salmah,

    We (I) already predicted that purchasers will facing this situation earlier but they don’t have any choice.. several purchaser also showed highly confident with FH & they simply adopted what FH said without evaluate the risk..I’m not blame to them because FH give them HOPE when FH deliver their proposal during the first meet with purchasers long time ago..during that time, FH representor ACTING like without top up commitment from purchaser also not the problem for them to complete the project…

    Pn Salmah,

    Don’t top up mean termination of the past agreement & lost the unit (i’m the one)..AND facing ligality action from bank..

    When they top up, it incresing committment (bank loan > rm700 permonth extra for 5 years personal loan + monthly payment) and the result is, they also cannot get the units as FH PROMISE until now & don’t know when it can be complete. The answer u will get when u call FH.. ‘don’t worry..we must and been responsible to complete it’..ermm..pathetic & standard nice response from FH especially from Kumar FH..When u ask lot he start to increasing his volume..’ We FH are representive the COURT’..feel like to spit into his face.

    I facing lot of difficuties with my life because of this assh**e project. I hate to serve this blog site since i already lost my unit…BUT..i still need to see completion of this project..my sister also one of the victim.. when i saw her suffer, i feel more anger..

    To FH, Talam & Mudi Angkasa.. U DEAL WITH HUMAN..human have feel & it have the limit…sometime u can hide backside of the COMPANY but sometime u cannot..please be careful..

    • 29

      angry said,

      Broken heart, like Pn Salmah said…jom kita semua file complain to KPKT..apa diorang ingat representative of the court can just treat us any way they can ka??

      • 30

        angry said,

        Next time kita jangan call, hantar email.kalau FH tak respond, prove they are not sincere, kalau dia respond..ada bukti apa yg diorang cakap & janji. Apa pun, kita pakat complain, kalau dapat, kita ajak KPKT utk meeting with FH nanti.Apa lagi cerita bohong FH.

  22. 31

    projektipu said,

    since kumar fh banyak janji yang bukan bukan apa kata kita saman dia………..cadangan jer sapa setuju?????

    • 32

      Amirhamzah (CEO KCSB) said,

      Greeting to all purchaser,
      My name is Amirhamzah representing Kamuja Corporation Sdn. Bhd. (KCSB)the contractor who like yourself is now one of the project casualty. All this while we have remained silent over our involvement int= this project but it the interest of the purchasers let us be transparent of what transpired and what was our role.
      Best explain our role first:
      1) KCSB is appointed only as the contractor for the project under PAM FORM of Contract.
      2) in the contract payment is based on a monthly interim payment based on the architect certificate.
      3) Upon the architect cert the Client(Mudi/FH) will have to honour the payment within 30 days of the Architect Cert.
      4)KCSB acknowledged that the first six(6) months from the project start the cashflow was tight due to money coming in for the top sum.
      5) The understanding between KCSB and FH was for the progress to comensurate with the cashflow.
      6) Never there was any agreement that KCSB have to fund the project even though KCSB have not been paid. Once the Letter of Award was issued it is the onous of FH to ensure that the funds were made available to KCSB.
      7) Any default in payment is contractual default.
      Now what transpired………
      1)In May KCSB highlighted that works cannot be slowed down anymore as completion period was nearing
      2) FH during site meeting confirmed that there was no problem with the fund and instructed KCSB to proceed with full force
      3) Works for August 2011 was certified and FH had problem releasing the money.
      3) KCSB arranged with a Sabahan funder to fund 10 million with KCSB willing to absorbed the 1 million cost of financing. FH refused to give commitment to make payment to funder. Scheme aborted.
      4)Works for October 2011 was certified and was informed by FH that they have no idea how to pay. So was works for November 2011. At this point the amount owing to KCSB was 1.50m.
      ANY REASONABLE CONTRACTOR WOULD NOT PROCEED IF NO SECURITY OF PAYMENT.
      5) In January KCSB arrange another funder and hed negotiated w FH on the terms. FH again would not want to commit. Agreed in FH office was to cool of the project until a solution on the cash flow is found.
      6) In April bring in another funder from Penang. Funder requested prove FH could sell the units. At this point only we knew FH hv not renewed the developer’s liecense hence counld not sell. Deal again aborted
      7)KCSB arranged for FH to meet KPKT in particular Mr. Jana to resolve the problem.
      8) KCSB again arranged funds from Chaudhary Group of Nepal and Paradise Group of Malaysia for funding and the party committed to fund the project. Details of which have already been sent to FH incl KPKT.
      FH again remained silent

      Please note all this while we, KCSB have been trying to resolve the financial issue and not FH. It is not our duty as a contractor to finance the project to completion. We work and we should get paid as with the purchase you pay youy get your house. Are we to be blamed for slowing down when it was mutually agreed the progress is based on the funds available. Are we to continue when we dont know whether we will be paid or not.
      Yes FH contended the termination was lawful but equity must come with clean hands.We have explaid this to one of the purchaser who came to our office seeking clarification and was informed of this forum.
      Rest assured we will seek justice and if that happens the actual party that suffer will definitely be the purchaser. Who will bear all the legal expenses and claim as correctly pointed out? FH? All that ………. you know the answer.
      We well come if any of the purchaser or the committee wanting to cite the legal documents prepared by our lawyers in defence and suit but could not allow any hard copies as the matter will be material case.
      Amirhamzah Abdul Majid
      012 365 1363

      Reply

  23. 33

    mss e said,

    Tday 20th of june. Notification for meeting pun tak nmpak btg hidung . FH main main kah!!!!!!!!!! Howwwwwwwwwww ?

  24. 34

    khairul said,

    Already got the letter for meeting yesterday..
    TQ

  25. 35

    ruba said,

    When this situation will give a good exprssion on management of fh????

  26. 36

    ed said,

    I already got letter from FH. Not an issue whether you got the letter or not, important is now you know there is a meeting so just make sure you attend.

    I think it is good to have politician to attend. When they come, the media will follow them, more publicity means the whole world will know about this failed project. Imagine this: FH image will be at stake, promisses from politician have to be fulfilled otherwise they will loose their votes. Doesn’t really matter which political side, their presence will give the pressure to FH. I don’t believe this will make things complicated.

  27. 37

    angry said,

    Get KPKT involve directly in this project….FH is not serious to safeguard our interest.A lot of things not explained to us…so apa agenda FH for this meeting..dont surprise us with another scheme.. and we have to bear all the pain..FH gain only.

  28. 38

    Prospective Buyer said,

    Dear Purchasers.
    As Puan Salmah, I am not one of the purchasers yet. I was approached by my ailing auntie to take over the property from her though not free as she asked me to continue with her loan. She could not take it anymore as she been harassed by the bank and lost interest especially after the passing of my uncle. So I reluctantly I look into this matter though it of little use to me but merely helping her.
    Coming from legal pertenity myself I have to be throughly sure of the situation and the problem I am jumping into. I made calls to KPKT and the contractor. These are my findings.
    1) as of 31st May FH had terminated the contractor Kamuja in short.
    2) FH or Mudi owed the contractor payment since october 2011 and had defaulted on 3 payment certificates amounting to more than RM1.50 m in total.
    3) Letter of demand was issued to FH and FH claimed that they are not bound to pay accordingly
    4) FH contended that it was Kamuja\\’s duty to finish off despite not getting payment and have to continue irrespective.(Note no consideration here)
    5) FH have not disclosed the true amount collected and simply would not pay the contractor. Only Rm 4.00m apid out of 6.5m work dn.
    6) Kamuja had arrange for the project to be finished off without relying on the funds from the project ie purchaser. They were willing to absorbed the RM1 m financing cost but FH refused to give payment commitment to the funder and was aborted.
    7) Kamuja then arranged for another funder to finance the project but FH dnt want to proceed
    8) kamuja is taking legal action against FH for wrongful termination
    9) They are also suing FH for direct losses and misrepresentation
    10) Check with KPKT revealed that the developer\\’s license was not renew as of 31st May
    11) Mr Jana of KPKT was upset with the way FH is handling the situation as it will caused legal entanglement
    12) Kamuja had written to FH and KPKT informing that they are willing to continue utilising external funds. Was informed FH would not commit.

    The question here is where we as a buyer stand if kamuja takes FH/Mudi to court. What if this drags on? What if the court granted kamuja\\’s application for wrongful termination and worst what if kamuja wins the case? Who will pay for the claims? definitely FH will pass the legal fees and the claim back to the project. Who will suffer then?

    Lastly I agree with Puan Salmah to have KPKT especially Jana as he is well verse about this project and over this period have know both Kamuja and FH. Best if we could have his representation and views during the meeting
    Caveat Emptor (Let the Buyer Beware)

    Prospective Emptor

    • 39

      ed said,

      Thanks for this valuable insider information. Committee please be aware and ensure Jana from KPKT attend the meeting.

  29. 40

    khairul said,

    Apa nak jadi dengan FH ni..punah ranah semua.?

  30. 41

    Amirhamzah (CEO KCSB) said,

    Greeting to all purchaser,
    My name is Amirhamzah representing Kamuja Corporation Sdn. Bhd. (KCSB)the contractor who like yourself is now one of the project casualty. All this while we have remained silent over our involvement int= this project but it the interest of the purchasers let us be transparent of what transpired and what was our role.
    Best explain our role first:
    1) KCSB is appointed only as the contractor for the project under PAM FORM of Contract.
    2) in the contract payment is based on a monthly interim payment based on the architect certificate.
    3) Upon the architect cert the Client(Mudi/FH) will have to honour the payment within 30 days of the Architect Cert.
    4)KCSB acknowledged that the first six(6) months from the project start the cashflow was tight due to money coming in for the top sum.
    5) The understanding between KCSB and FH was for the progress to comensurate with the cashflow.
    6) Never there was any agreement that KCSB have to fund the project even though KCSB have not been paid. Once the Letter of Award was issued it is the onous of FH to ensure that the funds were made available to KCSB.
    7) Any default in payment is contractual default.
    Now what transpired………
    1)In May KCSB highlighted that works cannot be slowed down anymore as completion period was nearing
    2) FH during site meeting confirmed that there was no problem with the fund and instructed KCSB to proceed with full force
    3) Works for August 2011 was certified and FH had problem releasing the money.
    3) KCSB arranged with a Sabahan funder to fund 10 million with KCSB willing to absorbed the 1 million cost of financing. FH refused to give commitment to make payment to funder. Scheme aborted.
    4)Works for October 2011 was certified and was informed by FH that they have no idea how to pay. So was works for November 2011. At this point the amount owing to KCSB was 1.50m.
    ANY REASONABLE CONTRACTOR WOULD NOT PROCEED IF NO SECURITY OF PAYMENT.
    5) In January KCSB arrange another funder and hed negotiated w FH on the terms. FH again would not want to commit. Agreed in FH office was to cool of the project until a solution on the cash flow is found.
    6) In April bring in another funder from Penang. Funder requested prove FH could sell the units. At this point only we knew FH hv not renewed the developer’s liecense hence counld not sell. Deal again aborted
    7)KCSB arranged for FH to meet KPKT in particular Mr. Jana to resolve the problem.
    8) KCSB again arranged funds from Chaudhary Group of Nepal and Paradise Group of Malaysia for funding and the party committed to fund the project. Details of which have already been sent to FH incl KPKT.
    FH again remained silent

    Please note all this while we, KCSB have been trying to resolve the financial issue and not FH. It is not our duty as a contractor to finance the project to completion. We work and we should get paid as with the purchase you pay youy get your house. Are we to be blamed for slowing down when it was mutually agreed the progress is based on the funds available. Are we to continue when we dont know whether we will be paid or not.
    Yes FH contended the termination was lawful but equity must come with clean hands.We have explaid this to one of the purchaser who came to our office seeking clarification and was informed of this forum.
    Rest assured we will seek justice and if that happens the actual party that suffer will definitely be the purchaser. Who will bear all the legal expenses and claim as correctly pointed out? FH? All that ………. you know the answer.
    We well come if any of the purchaser or the committee wanting to cite the legal documents prepared by our lawyers in defence and suit but could not allow any hard copies as the matter will be material case.
    Amirhamzah Abdul Majid
    012 365 1363

    • 42

      Someone said,

      I was thinking that, since starting project KCSB had very-very sloww progress at site.Late payment, less material..

      • 43

        Amirhamzah(CEO KCSB) said,

        Dear Someone,
        Noted your comment but KCSB had the understanding with FH. This was recorded in various minutes of meetings and correspondences confirming the same. Simply there is not enough money and not KCSB agreement to fund the project till completion even though KCSB has not been paid.
        TQ

  31. 44

    Casey said,

    i got to know from my financier (Citibank) that the top rm30k is not release yet to FH. i am wondering why?

    • 45

      Vincent said,

      Hi Casey,

      There must be some communication breakdown, do bring along the topup loan approval and share with FH on Saturday.

      Vincent

    • 46

      Prospective Emptor said,

      Dear Purchasers.
      As Puan Salmah, I am not one of the purchasers yet. I was approached ny my ailing auntie to take over the property from her though not free as she asked me to contineu her loan. She could not take it anymore as she been harassed by the bank and lost interest especially after the passing of my uncle. So I reluctantly I look into this matter though it of little use to me but merely helping her
      Coming from legal pertenity myself I have to be throughly sure of the situation and the problem I am jumping into. I made call to KPKT and the contractor. These are my findings.
      1) As of 31st may FH had terminated the contractor Kamuja in short.
      2) FH or Mudi owed the contractor payment since October 2011 an had defaulted on 3 payment certificates amounting to more than RM1.50 m in total.
      3) Letter of demand was issued to FH and FH claimed that they not bound to pay accordingly.
      4) FH contended that it was Kamuja’s duty to finish off despite not getting payment and have to contineu irrespective. (Note no consideration here)
      5) FH have not disclosed the trueamount collected and simply would not pay the contractor. Only RM4.00 m paid out of RM6.50 m work done.
      6) Kamuja had arrange for the project to be finished off without relying on the finds from the project is purchaser. They were willing to absorbed the RM1.00 m financing cost but FH refused to give payment commtment to thr funder and was aborted.
      7) Kamuja then arranged for another funder to finance the project but FH dont want to proceed.
      8) Kamuja is takign legal action against FH for wrongful termination
      9) They are also suing FH for direct losses and misrepresentation.
      10) Check with KPKT revealed that the developer’s license was not renew as of 31st May
      11) Mr Jana of KPKT was upset with the way FH is handling the situation as it will caused legal entanglement.
      12) Kamuja had written to FH and KPKT informing that they are willing to contineu utilising external funds. Was informed FH would not commit.
      The question here is where we as buyer stand if Kamuja take FH/Mudi to court. What id this drags on? What if the court granted Kamuja’s application for wrongful termination and worst what if Kamuja wins the case? Who will pay for the claims? Definitely FH will pass the legal fees and the claim back to the project. Who will suffer then?
      Lastly I agree with Puan Salmah to have KPKT especially Jana as he is well verse about this project and over this period hacve know both Kamuja and FH. Best if we could have his representation and views during meeting Caveat Emptor (Let the Buyer Beware)
      Prospective Emptor

  32. 47

    Broken Heart said,

    Dear Friends & committees,

    Pleaseeee ensure that meeting on 30th June be MINUTES and sign off by FH officers, KPKT reps & comittees. If u can record it much better..Its very important .. it can be the reference if FH try to ding-dong-ding-dong after this.

    From my understanding from the KCSB CEO mail, its looks like they want to complete this project BUT FH not gave commitment..i NEVER understand why FH doing this when KCSB can get the funder ..FH MUST give explaination on this issue..

    To ensure that we receive the clear, correct & fair information from FH..committees MUST invite KCSB rep during the meeting..

    point no.2 from KCSB CEO “FH during site meeting confirmed that there was no problem with the fund and instructed KCSB to proceed with full force”…This is the same word FH used during first meeting for seeking vote with purchasers earlier…but what the purchaser face now when they vote for this PENYELAMAT…

    Dear FH,

    Majority or puchasers are really in suffer now including my sister because u FH not delever as what u promise …please don’t use your standard answer ‘ WE FH, understand with puchasers suffer’..no point if u understand but FH character not like what u said…i feel sad when heared that u FH not gave commitment to Kamuja when already funder to complete the project…

    Where & what is the FH plan TO EXPEDITE the project just like u sing to use before?.

    Butuh is not enough FH.. .. one more time i like to remind FH..U DEAL WITH HUMAN..human have feel & it have the limit…sometime u can hide backside of the COMPANY but sometime u cannot..please be careful..

    • 48

      Amirhamzah(CEO KCSB) said,

      Dear Broken Heart,
      We have given all documentary evidence and have done our best for the project as humanly possible. Our Funder Mr. Amit fhe funder came all the way from India. The have even appointed their lawyer to be present at the meeting and to follow thru the agreement. FH have all our official offer sent by AR Registered and waiting their confirmation to draw up the agreement

    • 49

      angry said,

      what is goin on????now our situation has gone worst!! What game is FH trying to play here…to save us or burn us!! Committee must take action la!!!

  33. 50

    pembeli malang said,

    pendapat saya….if kamuja menang saman dgn FH …FH tanggung sendiri lah apa kena mengena dgn purchaser….who is the liquidator/developer disini??? Fh are running the show…dia mintak 30K purchaser dah beri…yang mana tak setuju nak topup unit rumah akan diambil dan dijual….ini yang saya faham selama ini….semua ada tulis dalam surat kepada purchaser…

    • 51

      naj said,

      korang semua memang dah kena kencing dengan amir, mahmud sekalilah dengan bini amir tu nabila……ni tiga ekor ni memang penipu besar……….

  34. 52

    pembeli malang said,

    committee kena berhati2 dgn meeting kali nie jgn simply main setuju je…by the way agreed with ed please ensure MR JANA from KPKT are in the meeting…..tq

  35. 53

    Rahim Sham said,

    Got notice of meeting letter last week, backdated letter dated 2 June.

    dear KCSB.. Your feedback came very late and I understand the situation better. But better late than never. Hope this quotation will NOT apply to our beloved Condo. FH has to clarify on the whole episode.

    Very interesting feedback but the whole clarification provided talk about money money, financial and contract agreement!!!. Nothing technical and operational. Understand money substance..

    My technical gut feel that if KCSB is serious about the project completion, with small % incomplete remaining after the took over, other good contractors able to complete within months if not a year.
    No crane means no high tower building and this crane plays critical part of building contruction… Pls share with us the crane cost and it’s utilization factor.

    Thank you..

    • 54

      Amirhamzah(CEO KCSB) said,

      Dear En. Rahim,
      Crane utilisation in this project is very little use as almost all wet works were done. However still ned to have. To have the crane installed it will take about 2 wks and with another 2 wks for JKKP approval. Cost ard 18k incl operator/mth. Now mainly for hoisting of roofing works and installation of scaffolding. Scaffolding will up to the roof and commence within a week os starting.
      Will also nd to install scaffolding and material/passenger hoist.
      We have already planned out work and informed FH that we can finnish off within 9 mths if not less as we dont depend on Purchaser’s fund and the good thing is that no more units need to be terminated.
      We have been invited to attend to answer any questions and eleborate on the plan if nd be.
      Tq

      • 55

        Rahim Sham said,

        Terima Kasih En Amir diatas keterangan yg diberi.. Kesulitan dan kesukaran yg lalu harus jadi teladan buat semua… TALAM management, Live in Shame !!!. Few wrong doing caused multiple injuries.

  36. 56

    Broken Heart said,

    En. Amir (Kamuja),

    Cuma saya nak tanya tuan, sekiranya FH setuju dengan arrangement Kamuja dengan funder ( i.e . Sabahan Funder tempohari) sebagaimana yg Kamuja propose..berapa lama pula jangkaan masa yg diperlukan oleh Kamuja bagi menyiapkan projek ini?.

    Terimakasih.

    • 57

      Amirhamzah(CEO KCSB) said,

      Dear Broken Heart,
      We have submitted a work schedule of 9 months commencing 15tn July 2012

  37. 58

    Broken Heart said,

    En Amir,

    Seeking another info from u. Boleh saya tahu berapa banyak lagi jangkaan kos yg diperlukan oleh Kamuja bagi menyiapkan projek ini?.

    Terimakasih.

    • 59

      amirhamzah(CEO of Kamuja) said,

      I hv answered ur ? before but sadly my posting was deleted by the administrator. Fyi we r commited to the remaining contract cost of Rm 11.2m. Looks like sm1 dnt want the cat to get out of the hat

    • 60

      angry said,

      Based on en amir..someone erasing his posting here..i knw as i also read his reply to broken heart pertaining to cosy to complete.now its nit here any more.who erase?? And why erased??we need to knw the truth…sm1 here is barua fir Fh ka??? Hoi,we r at risk here..wat game is this??? Wtf!!!

  38. 61

    Sera said,

    Dear Mr. Suresh,
    Please do JUSTICE to the purchaser and KCSB. Now we got many parties victimised. If new contractor appointed, they are also going for the same fate as us. If FH continues to play MONGKEY!

    • 62

      naj said,

      korang semua memang dah kena kencing dengan amir, mahmud sekalilah dengan bini amir tu nabila……ni tiga ekor ni memang penipu besar……….

  39. 63

    Sera said,

    FH must get their direction and professionalism right! Then only this project is completed. Or else all of us will be screwed!

  40. 64

    Sera said,

    Mr. Jana knew inside & out on the problem and solution to this project. According my info he has been helpful and mediate few meetings on Nusa Mewah and cashflow is the core problem (according to my cousin who works at KPKT). But FH is not being TRUTHFULL & HONEST dealing with our problem. Be it Andrew, Yvone, Kumar …..birds of the same feather flock together. Let get them tomorrow.Bring on Mr. Jana & KCSB…..then the truth shall prevail.

  41. 65

    Chin said,

    All this thing have finally come into light, I personally thank En Amir for giving us a clear understanding, and I’m also grateful that his company and really doing something for our house to be completed.

    FH, hope you better prepare for tomorrow’s meeting.

    • 66

      Amirhamzah (CEO KCSB) said,

      As promised I am suppose to update the outcome of the purposed meeting with FH this morning.
      The meeting which was supposedly a solution to Nusa Mewah problem was a letdown. We questioned the sincerity and the seriousness of Mr. Andrew Heng. The meeting was attended by the Associate Director and two senior consultants. There were no solution and instead we received ‘judgement’ from FH representative. To matter worse the potential investor’s solicitor was not present in the meeting due to adverse remarks or judgement made by the Associate Director. Despite meeting ended in the deadlock the investor still remain positive if the current issues resolve by KCSB and FH.

      • 67

        sun said,

        So, seems it will be a long way for all of us to get our houses…so what is the revival scheme now? FH, what is your plan to complete this project? What will be the price incurred on this project and are we suppose to pay additional top up sum? What will happen if kamuja proceed to sue FH? Can other contractor complete? Any possibility of injuction???….Please clarify.

      • 68

        sun said,

        Fellow purchasers, its time we take the upper hand in this matter…i will definetely make a complain to kpkt & all the way up to the minister…i got to know there are a committee of inspection…so what the hell is the commitee doing??? If Fh fail to carry this project…Fh must resign!! We face enough heartache & loss already.

  42. 69

    Viv said,

    thanks to the committees for their commitment and effort all these year. gambate!

    it is indeed burdening right now having to pay for 2 houses every month. i am just praying to get my house, one that is being built with responsibility and integrity:)

  43. 70

    buyer1 said,

    so now what to do…….???????nothing meh??????………..where the hell is the committee????……….something fishy going on?????…..why en amir post deleted????

  44. 71

    Liimm said,

    What is the outcome after the meeting?

    • 72

      Rahim Sham said,

      What I can say briefly, Kemuja explained their part of the story and FH seems dont care less. But I feel they are committed to continue to complete the condo terlewat.. Cash flow was the issue n said few times..

      requires a funder to fund the remaining work. 4 funding alternatives explained by FH, and Kemuja is one of them. FH is not keen for Kemuja as funder due to reasons best known to them..

      FH and committee do not want to discuss much on past problem, agree somehow to move forward.

      Somehow do not understand why the committee is siding FH all the way..

      What was committed by FH to resume construction by August 2012 and will be completed in 10 months from 1st August 2012. It means we can see the tower crane at site by end July 2012. How this can be done, Vincent said dont worry we can leave in FH good hand.

      Hope don’t hear anymore excuse, Ramadan dan pekerja cuti panjang, krismas and cuti hujong tahun, chinese new year dan cuti panjang lagi, pekerja lambat bayar gaji, etc etc..

      • 73

        Vincent Leong said,

        Hi Rahim,

        As per the meeting, decision will be made latest by 15JUL12 on reviving contractor to be appoint and the said contractor are complied again FH condition to be self funded till the CF is obtain as the bulk of loan will only be release during the stage.

        Vincent

  45. 74

    Chin said,

    All parties want the project to be revived, but some are with hidden motives. In the end, the one who suffers still the house buyer, and the greatest loser, is those who already paid the top up. Yes, I paid the top up, and it is always in my mind, that the one and ONLY one, who is suffering is us, the buyer. The rest of the parties, all get $$$.

    I already tired of listen to the sweet promise that we will get our house in the end, and that is a GAIN. Excuse me, what good does it make you, when you already lost more than a house before getting it??? We lost almost 10 years of security, 10 years of joy, 10 years of family bliss, 10 years of health (because we work ourself to death paying the loan) and etc… who is paying for that?

    FH promised a lot for us to sign the agreement, they are using our weaknesses against us, that is we want the house to be completed. Delays after delays, who dare to challenge them? They will say no one is going to complete the project except us. FH, is you are sincere, put a statement that if you cannot finish in time, this time, you will get some punishment! Losing money or put in jail, i don’t mind, as long as i know if you got something to lose.

    The comittees, you are the one who always communicate with FH and us, we sincerely need your help. To remind you, you are not to play neutral part in this kind of project, you are our strength to get us our condo back, you cannot be standing in the middle, and worst siding with FH. Only a truly 3rd party can act as middle man, who do not have anything to do with the gain or loss of this condo whatsoever.

    I know whatever we said here is useless, but i know one thing, God is looking..

  46. 75

    sufferbuyer said,

    i thing kpkt must be inform with current situation…..comittee must work closely together with kpkt to ensure everything move fluently…they know more better from us to handle sick housing project…

  47. 76

    IDA PPUM said,

    BODOH FH & COMITEE tu..DAH KAMUJA DAH ADA DANA NAK TERUSKAN PROJEK TU, FH TAK NAK TERIMA PULA..NAK LANTIK KOTRAKTOR LAIN YG BELUM TENTU HUJUNG PANGKALNYA….KONONNYA KONTRAKTOR TU TAK BAGUS…MEMANG FH & RAKAN2NYA PEMBELIT NAK UNTUNG TAK BERTEMPAT..KALAU BOLEH NAK LEWATKAN PROJEK TU…BIAR BOLEH TEMINATE BYK LAGI PEMBELI..UNTNG BESAR..ENTAHLAH APA HARUS KITA BUAT KPD MEREKA2 YG TAK BERPERASAAN NI!!!

    • 77

      naj said,

      banyak dah kamuja punya projek tak siap…………siapa kata company in ada duit…………korang silap salah pilih…………..nilah company yang paling teruk………..

  48. 78

    sufferbuyer11 said,

    so apa feed back meeting ………..tak ada minute mesyuarat ker???….comittee pun tak boleh pakai punya….ikut saja cakap FH ….lagi satu sapa lantik depa jadi comitteee…..sendiri lantik diri sendiri ker????…

  49. 79

    chin said,

    I was uable to visit this site for sometime, wonder if anyone experience the same problem. Is the site administrator trying to shut off the website because it is hard to maintain? If yes, please the let committee knows about it. Very hard for us to get any update on our condo if without this blog.

  50. 80

    naj said,

    korang semua memang dah kena kencing dengan amir, mahmud sekalilah dengan bini amir tu nabila……ni tiga ekor ni memang penipu besar……….

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